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Rekliss · Sep 30, 2009, 02:55 PM // 14:55

Does anyone think it would be nice to have a single option for out-of-district goldsellers?

ie- they are jumping districts and you don't want your spot in the trade menu lost; but no fear because when you /report a goldseller that is PM'ing you and they are not in your district, you are given one option to check: goldseller. and of course, anyone who abuses this should be banned. I figure this might make a nice addition and help nail the goldsellers who are screwing the game for us.

Here, this is what i think the menu should look like:

Gift3d · Sep 30, 2009, 03:19 PM // 15:19

1. ignore list
2. wont happen quick enough to matter
3. i'm sure they have tons of accounts

if you want to feel like a true blue carebear you can still report him for spamming though.

Rekliss · Sep 30, 2009, 04:25 PM // 16:25

of course they have tons of accounts; but if you get them caught faster than they can acquire them, maybe they will be more discreet about it, and not sit there and spam all over the place.

Ignore list does not deter them from selling gold, it just keeps you from seeing them. I'm talking about a faster way to tag and ban those accounts.

drunk n angry · Sep 30, 2009, 05:43 PM // 17:43

i used to camp out in d2 great temple of balthazar.... there was a gold seller that would be there almost every day. i would report him to anet with screenshots and putting in support tickets. they would write back saying that the account was banned. next day he was back. and again account banned. i did this about 5 times and then i gave up LOL. there are too many thiefs out there for me to try to play super cop. anet is the one that needs to protect their own EULA. and we just need to protect our own accounts by making sure we dont buy gold and also making sure our systems are virus free to protect your accounts all over from getting hacked from keyloggers.

Reverend Dr · Sep 30, 2009, 06:25 PM // 18:25

please give me a way to report people not in my district

not one of these will be a legitimate report

wilderness · Sep 30, 2009, 07:08 PM // 19:08

It's simple enough to make a ss and report via support.

Also, I reported a scammer a few days ago and actually received confirmation that their account had been suspended. So don't think reporting is futile!

Xenex Xclame · Sep 30, 2009, 07:14 PM // 19:14

How about Anet just fix it so you dont lose your "spot" unless you leave that town.

Its stupid that you have to rewrite your line just because you went to a diff district.

Mitchel · Oct 01, 2009, 10:35 AM // 10:35

This is ironic.

Shasgaliel · Oct 01, 2009, 01:06 PM // 13:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reverend Dr

please give me a way to report people not in my district

not one of these will be a legitimate report

Reporting people not in the district is the only option for this to work I think. /signed. However I have not seen a gold seller more than once so I am not sure how useful it will be.

Elephantaliste · Oct 01, 2009, 02:15 PM // 14:15

/signed
Gold sellers can't be reported in same tdistrict, since they leave immediately after spamming thus making current scamming report system obsolete.

Vdawg1337 · Oct 01, 2009, 06:27 PM // 18:27

/signed
Im too lazy to submit a support ticket :P

Reverend Dr · Oct 01, 2009, 08:25 PM // 20:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shasgaliel

Reporting people not in the district is the only option for this to work I think. /signed. However I have not seen a gold seller more than once so I am not sure how useful it will be.

You just gave myself, everyone that is an asshole in my guild, and everyone that is an asshole in my alliance the ability to report anyone, anywhere. These automated reports are not closely examined unlike the screenshot reports sent to NCSoft support.

IntrospectivePirate · Oct 01, 2009, 10:19 PM // 22:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rekliss

of course they have tons of accounts; but if you get them caught faster than they can acquire them, maybe they will be more discreet about it, and not sit there and spam all over the place.

Ignore list does not deter them from selling gold, it just keeps you from seeing them. I'm talking about a faster way to tag and ban those accounts.

Sarcasm

Sign me up for the Report Scouts

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Elephantaliste · Oct 01, 2009, 10:24 PM // 22:24

(could be a separate report system with a separate command /reportrmt)

i am adding 2 arguments for your suggestion :
*helps to give priority for that kind of spontaneous reports
*allows rmt reports to be processed with as much reactivity as for reports on support website.

Taurus ChicKa · Oct 02, 2009, 05:49 PM // 17:49

Been suggeested several times, but I'll go ahead and post my thoughts:

I hate when people PM me just to spam things. One time someone made a racist name and spamm-PM'd me that name for like 10 minutes straight. Well okay, maybe not that long because I did ignore them.

However, it was still uncalled for, and I couldn't use the /report feature because I was in an explorable area, so of course the person wasn't in my district. Something like that should have been reported. Now granted I did take a screenshot and send it to PlayNC and they banned the person, but consider this -

Your ignore list only holds eight. There are a lot more spammers, gold sellers, etc. than that, not to mention people who you yourself just don't get along with. Everyone uses the ignore list for a different reason, but I always felt that a total of eight was too small.

But yes, I think that the /report feature should work wherever you are, and not require you to be in the same district as the offender. And that's what the chat log is for - just because you report someone doesn't mean they'll get banned, so ANet needs to check the chat log to see if what the person did was, in fact, a violation. That, and increase our ignore list size.

Rekliss · Oct 02, 2009, 07:43 PM // 19:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taurus ChicKa

Been suggeested several times, but I'll go ahead and post my thoughts:

I hate when people PM me just to spam things. One time someone made a racist name and spamm-PM'd me that name for like 10 minutes straight. Well okay, maybe not that long because I did ignore them.

However, it was still uncalled for, and I couldn't use the /report feature because I was in an explorable area, so of course the person wasn't in my district. Something like that should have been reported. Now granted I did take a screenshot and send it to PlayNC and they banned the person, but consider this -

Your ignore list only holds eight. There are a lot more spammers, gold sellers, etc. than that, not to mention people who you yourself just don't get along with. Everyone uses the ignore list for a different reason, but I always felt that a total of eight was too small.

But yes, I think that the /report feature should work wherever you are, and not require you to be in the same district as the offender. And that's what the chat log is for - just because you report someone doesn't mean they'll get banned, so ANet needs to check the chat log to see if what the person did was, in fact, a violation. That, and increase our ignore list size.

It's all good and well, but this is for speed. If a-net doesnt have to sift through pages of chat logs (wasting 15 mins or so) for every report, then we can get these accounts banned faster. I am tired of the economy going to crap because of these guys; if we ban them fast enough - they will not advertise nearly as much and maybe their prices will go way up, so less people will buy; and that will help keep our economy in-line. As for the ignore list - it's a waste to add goldsellers, they get banned shortly after advertising, so it IS a waste to add them to that list. With a system like this though-A-net gets a goldseller /report on a single account from 80 different players, there isnt much question as to what they are doing; the ban can maybe be automated depending on the amount of reports to the account. Many ideas, same story - I think we need this for our sake.

Taurus ChicKa · Oct 02, 2009, 10:55 PM // 22:55

Good point Rekliss; yeah, it would be a waste to put a gold-seller on the ignore list. I was mostly talking about the ones in my case, where a person with a racist name PM'd racist comments to me, spamming them. hehe

But yeah, the ignore list still seems pretty short, but I hate seeing those gold sellers. Them, and the "WTB GW accounts" spammers...I don't think anyone is going to offer.

Reverend Dr · Oct 03, 2009, 03:51 AM // 03:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rekliss

If a-net doesnt have to sift through pages of chat logs (wasting 15 mins or so) for every report, then we can get these accounts banned faster.

If anet doesn't sift through pages of chat logs for every report and instead just issues bans, do I really need to finish this line of thinking?

I just said that such a system will be abused. If they aren't taking 15 minutes to sift through for each report before issuing a ban, do you think they are going to spend 15 minutes sifting through to check to see if it is a false report?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rekliss

the ban can maybe be automated depending on the amount of reports to the account.

Really? Are you that dense? Do you really want automated bannings of accounts? I'm sure that such a system would never ban an account that wasn't worthy of it. I'm also sure that NCSoft support won't be dealing with more work taking ban appeals than they did just dealing with money trader reports.

Rekliss · Oct 03, 2009, 04:09 AM // 04:09

well, you would have to piss off about 80 people simultaneously and have them all accuse you of being a goldseller for that to work - so it would be hard to abuse that feature if the person isnt a goldseller.

Reverend Dr · Oct 03, 2009, 05:27 AM // 05:27

There aren't 80 people in the game that care enough to report a goldseller.

Whatever artificial number of reports you would need to autoban someone, it doesn't change the fact that you will be banning an account based entirely upon player input and nothing from the company itself.

Whatever number you choose, come mAT a lot of people are going to get autobanned. "Oh but Rev clearly that is an abuse and they will ban the people doing it." That's not my point. My point is that accounts would be falsely banned. Sure this time it was obvious, but are they going to scrutinize every single banning? What time is saved in autobanning if every ban has to be looked at? None, no time is saved, but bad PR is created.

Automated banning of accounts is a terrible idea and anyone that would promote it clearly doesn't understand mmo design.